Discussion of the idea that a person could learn simply by using Google. Clark Quinnresponds, "I'm concerned that someone's going to try to push the view that a factoid dribble is an elearning solution. Which might prevent people from working to solve the tough components of the problem: context model, content model, user model." Fair enough. I clarify my position in this dialogue and several people chime in about the definition of e-learning and whether or not it is, and Jay Cross says, dead.