Do TIMSS and PISA tell us as much as media and political reaction imply?
December 13, 2012
Commentary by Stephen Downes

Short answer: no.

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Re: Do TIMSS and PISA tell us as much as media and political reaction imply?

Frank Lowney, December 16, 2012

While I agree with your short answer on the lack of content and predictive validity of these measures, the proposed alternatives (entrepreneurial, creative) seem incomplete to me. Where and how are American's learning this stuff that keeps them on top? Is it purposeful as in the teachings of a secret society? Is it open to all? [Comment] [Permalink] [Previous][Next]

Re: Do TIMSS and PISA tell us as much as media and political reaction imply?

Stephen Downes, December 16, 2012

I've long argued that you need to look at longer-term outcomes to measure the success of the learning, instead of short-term measures to evaluate the success o the learner. More recently, I have been arguing that performance indicators in social networks constitute a reasonable guide of whether a person is being evaluated as knowledgeable by the relevant community. [Comment] [Permalink] [Previous][Next]



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