The Closure of Trdev
Jan 23, 2009
Commentary by Stephen Downes

Note that you may need a Yahoo login to view the link, sorry. I have been a subscriber to the TRDEV mailing list for many years, almost always as a lurker. Today I received a post saying "The trdev list will close on January 27. The list's archives have been deleted and the membership database will be deleted at that time." And I am glad I didn't invest a lot of time in it. The archives have already been deleted? While it's true that the list has "never been a democracy," I share the frustration of the member who said, "I am still very surprised and disappointed by the unilateral actions by the TRDEV 'owners.'" How could they think it was appropriate to delete the archives without notice? Participants on ITForum (which shared an administrator) beware. Total: 251
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Re: The Closure of Trdev

Hi Stephen,

This is why you NEVER trust your material to the "cloud." Being a long time member of TRDEV, I posted quite frequently but always kept a copy on my computer and a back-up hard drive.

I did subscribe to the the old TRDEV-L -- I hope it has a good run. But for some reason, I have a feeling that the closure of TRDEV and the reopening of TRDEV-L are related. However, I'm not sure why TRDEV had to pull a fahrenheit 451. [Comment] [Permalink]

Re: The Closure of Trdev

It was incredible arrogance and ignorance of the moderators to delete the archives. I'd lost interest in the group because the content has slowly been squeezed dry by over-moderation and censorship. Still, there was history and culture in the archives.

Interestingly, it reinforces the risk to relying as Don says on "the cloud" or as another article you highlight mentions, on rented goods.

It causes consternation about all communities when one person or a small group of people have control over its history and records.

Doug Smith

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